Editing Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Centralized Discussion/SkillsLaborProfessions

I am a little confused about the use of some terms on the wiki. 

(A) The [[:Category:DF2014:Skills|Skill articles]] utilize an infobox with terms 'Labor', 'Job Title', and 'Profession'.

* With 'Job title' referring to the in-game 'profession' name. Regarded as profession title in [[profession]]->[[labor]] entry, which make the point of distinguishing it from Jobs.
* while 'Profession' refer to the in-game color coding. Regarded as professional category in [[Skill#Professions]].
: This is a bit confusing, maybe a (1) different terminology should be employed in the infobox, or (2) a tooptip or link to relevant article should be added to the infobox. (3) possibly try for a clearer explanation of the basic terminology in [[labor]].

(B) The lead of Skill articles is all over the place. Some articles focus on:

* the skill - "Miner is the skill", "The bowyer skill is used to"..
:Others focus on:
* the 'Job title' - "A Cook is a dwarf whose highest skill is in cooking."
* the 'Job title' using the term 'profession' - "A gem cutter is the profession of a dwarf whose"
* the person doing the associated labor e.g. [[Brewer]]: "Brewers brew .." "Butchers do the dirty job of killing.."
:Some use all the above but doesn't link to [[mining]] labor nor explain what associated profession is.
* [[Miner]] is the skill associated with both the mining labor and its associated profession. 

:I think it might be best to (4) improve interlinking of all relevant article, making the treasure trove of information on the wiki more accessible, (5) figure out a more consistent lead based on input from experienced users here. 

Any thougts? --[[User:Jan|Jan]] ([[User talk:Jan|talk]]) 21:42, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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: ''Only comment from a year ago, but in current discussions, so'': I noticed some of the inconsistencies too. Seems to me that these categories could definitely do with some style/editing guidelines. It is understandable why it is easy to confuse/mix up the various references to these concepts. I suppose there needs to be some sort of consensus on what those guidelines should be. IMO, conformity of style seems quite valuable to something like this. Without a clear pattern of application of terms, it is needlessly confusing. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 21:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

:: I made some edits to {{tl|Skill}} and {{tl|v50 skill}} to make the skill/labor/profession/job title distinction clear. Tbh I think the infobox is now clear enough that it's not a big problem that some articles reference the skill in the lede and some reference the job title, when the two are the same. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 19:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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	:: I made some edits to {{tl\|Skill}} and {{tl\|v50 skill}} to make the skill/labor/profession/job title distinction clear. Tbh I think the infobox is now clear enough that it's not a big problem that some articles reference the skill in the lede and some reference the job title, when the two are the same. —[[User:OddballJoe\|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe\|talk]]) 19:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)		:: I made some edits to {{tl\|Skill}} and {{tl\|v50 skill}} to make the skill/labor/profession/job title distinction clear. Tbh I think the infobox is now clear enough that it's not a big problem that some articles reference the skill in the lede and some reference the job title, when the two are the same. —[[User:OddballJoe\|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe\|talk]]) 19:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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−	::: I hadn't taken the infobox into account, and it does make the distinction pretty clear. If I happen to notice any inconsistent wording in the body text of an article I'll edit a rephrasing, but as you say, it is not a big problem with the infobox there to clarify. [[User:Alpacalypse\|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse\|talk]]) 08:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)