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Can we ''please'' get rid of this "alluvial layers" BS?? --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 20:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 
Can we ''please'' get rid of this "alluvial layers" BS?? --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 20:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's in the raws, so it's on the page. No need to get uptight about it. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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:It's in the raws, so it's on the page. No need to get uptight about it. In fact, on the current version pages, it's impossible to get rid of it because the infobox contents are populated directly from the raws. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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::It's possible to make it ignore the [ENVIRONMENT:ALLUVIAL:etc] type tags. However, why would we want to intentionally omit information the raw files provide? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 20:30, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
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:::We'd want to omit the information because it is wrong. This article is full of incorrect information because it follows whats in the raws instead of how the game actually behaves. [[Special:Contributions/72.226.61.60|72.226.61.60]] 01:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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::::Technically, native platinum '''does''' occur in alluvial environments - it's just that there aren't ever any alluvial environments to begin with. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 01:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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== raws ==
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The end of the 'raws' section here reads:
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ore of mercury, powdered gives vermilion dye
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This comment obviously belongs to [[cinnabar]]. Is there any convenient way to move it to this article? --[[User:Izar|Izar]] 20:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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:It's a flaw in the regex we use to extract objects from the raw .txt files - it searches for [OBJECTTYPE:OBJECTNAME] (e.g. [CREATURE:DRAGON] or [INORGANIC:NATIVE_PLATINUM]) and then takes everything from that point up to the next "[OBJECTTYPE:" or the end of the file, whichever comes first. Ideally, we could alter it to strip stuff beyond the final right-bracket, but that would just discard the comment entirely, and adjusting the regex to include any comments before the desired object would be quite amazingly annoying. If your regex-fu is strong enough, then feel free to come up with something better (and make sure it doesn't cause PCRE to crash due to stack overflow - it tends to do that a LOT in PHP). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 22:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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::Why not just edit the raw itself to move that info down a line, into the cinnabar entry where it belongs?  Given that it's just a comment, I can't see the harm. [[Special:Contributions/72.1.186.174|72.1.186.174]] 12:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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:::Because then a whole bunch of other similar comments will need to be manually moved, and it'll have to be redone every time Toady releases a new version that happens to modify the raws. It's not a proper solution. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 16:59, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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Can we please get rid of this "alluvial layers" BS?? --Birthright 20:11, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

It's in the raws, so it's on the page. No need to get uptight about it. In fact, on the current version pages, it's impossible to get rid of it because the infobox contents are populated directly from the raws. --Quietust 20:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
It's possible to make it ignore the [ENVIRONMENT:ALLUVIAL:etc] type tags. However, why would we want to intentionally omit information the raw files provide? VengefulDonut 20:30, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
We'd want to omit the information because it is wrong. This article is full of incorrect information because it follows whats in the raws instead of how the game actually behaves. 72.226.61.60 01:19, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Technically, native platinum does occur in alluvial environments - it's just that there aren't ever any alluvial environments to begin with. --Quietust 01:43, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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The end of the 'raws' section here reads:

ore of mercury, powdered gives vermilion dye

This comment obviously belongs to cinnabar. Is there any convenient way to move it to this article? --Izar 20:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

It's a flaw in the regex we use to extract objects from the raw .txt files - it searches for [OBJECTTYPE:OBJECTNAME] (e.g. [CREATURE:DRAGON] or [INORGANIC:NATIVE_PLATINUM]) and then takes everything from that point up to the next "[OBJECTTYPE:" or the end of the file, whichever comes first. Ideally, we could alter it to strip stuff beyond the final right-bracket, but that would just discard the comment entirely, and adjusting the regex to include any comments before the desired object would be quite amazingly annoying. If your regex-fu is strong enough, then feel free to come up with something better (and make sure it doesn't cause PCRE to crash due to stack overflow - it tends to do that a LOT in PHP). --Quietust 22:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Why not just edit the raw itself to move that info down a line, into the cinnabar entry where it belongs? Given that it's just a comment, I can't see the harm. 72.1.186.174 12:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Because then a whole bunch of other similar comments will need to be manually moved, and it'll have to be redone every time Toady releases a new version that happens to modify the raws. It's not a proper solution. --Quietust 16:59, 26 October 2010 (UTC)