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= v50 (v50.07) tests =
 
= v50 (v50.07) tests =
  
== Heavy Armor vs Medium Armor (tested by: someguy) ==
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== Heavy-Armor vs Medium-Armor (tested by: someguy) ==
  
 
<u>'''Times run:'''</u>
 
<u>'''Times run:'''</u>
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100 times each
 
100 times each
  
<u>'''Initial setups and Results:'''</u>
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<u>'''Initial setup:'''</u>
  
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
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! Side & Creature !! Skills !! Items !! Victories
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! Side & Creature !! Number !! Skills !! Items
 
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| #1: 15 Dwarves || -no skills- || Steel Short Sword, Wood Shield, Full set of steel armor || 43
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| #1: Heavily Armored Dwarf Recruits || 15 || -no skills- || Steel Short Sword, Wood Shield, Full set of steel armor
 
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| #2: 15 Dwarves || -no skills- || Same but without Greaves and Breastplate || 57
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| #2: Medium Armored Dwarf Recruits || 15 || -no skills- || Same but without Greaves and Breastplate
 
|}
 
|}
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
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! Side & Creature !! Skills !! Items !! Victories
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! Side & Creature !! Number !! Skills !! Items
 
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| #1: 5 Dwarves  || swordsdwarf 7|| Steel Short Sword, Wood Shield, Full set of steel armor || 43
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| #1: Heavily Armored Adept Swordsdwarves || 5 || -adept swordsdwarf- || Steel Short Sword, Wood Shield, Full set of steel armor
 
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| #2: 5 Dwarves  || swordsdwarf 7|| Same but without Greaves and Breastplate || 53
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| #2: Medium Armored Adept Swordsdwarves || 5 || -adept swordsdwarf- || Same but without Greaves and Breastplate  
 
|}
 
|}
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
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! Side & Creature !! Skills !! Items !! Victories
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! Side & Creature !! Number !! Skills !! Items
 
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| #1: 5 Dwarves || swordsdwarf 14 || Steel Short Sword, Wood Shield, Full set of steel armor || 56
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| #1: Heavily Armored Dwarf Sword Masters || 5 || -grand master swordsdwarf- || Steel Short Sword, Wood Shield, Full set of steel armor
 
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| #2: 5 Dwarves || swordsdwarf 14 || Same but without Greaves and Breastplate || 42
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| #2: Medium Armored Dwarf Sword Masters || 5 || -grand master swordsdwarf- || Same but without Greaves and Breastplate
 
|}
 
|}
 
<u>'''Methodology:'''</u>
 
 
All experiments featured 100 fights. When there were no survivors the fight was excluded from the final numbers. For the unskilled test 5 15x15 dwarf combats were generated in a classic arena map and then the map was reloaded 20 times. For the other tests 25 5x5 dwarf combats were generated in  forest arena map inside 7x7 rooms made of tree trunks and the map was reloaded 4 times.
 
 
Steel Short swords were chosen for their variety of attacks.
 
 
Tests were done at different skill levels to vary the momentum of successful strikes (1.0x at unskilled, 1.5x at adept, 2.0x at grand master.)
 
 
<u>'''Notes:'''</u>
 
 
The objective of the test is to study some claims made in [[Armor#Encumbrance]]. Older testing indicated an unskilled peasant wearing heavy armor may fight at two-thirds the speed of a naked dwarf [[http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=111414.0| link]].
 
 
"Full Steel Armor" is used to mean breastplate, greaves, helm, gauntlets, high boots, and mail shirt.
 
 
Steel short swords wielded by typical dwarves will not pierce steel mail shirts. Instead the benefit of shaped armor in this situation was to decrease blunt damage from torso and leg strikes.
 
 
Weapon skill likely affects parrying chance as well as momentum, so varying skill level ultimately influenced combat length, and therefore the importance of fatigue, in an unknown way. Collapse from over-exertion was common.
 
 
The 95% confidence intervals for these results are about +-10 combats.
 
 
<u>'''Tester's conclusions:'''</u>
 
 
In no sample set of 100 combats was a statistically significant difference from equality of the groups observed. Furthermore at low and medium weapon skill levels the medium-armored dwarves performed somewhat better. These results are consistent with the advice that for military dwarves with low armor skill, the encumbrance of wearing multiple pieces of 15+ weight armor makes the extra protection not worth it. However, the difference does not appear to be backbreaking, metaphorically speaking. For comparison, in Neckromancer's win ratio tests above, a naked but shielded axedwarf with 2 ranks in each relevant skill defeated a similar dwarf with 1 rank in each relevant skill 83 out of 100 times.
 
 
= v50 (v50.11) tests =
 
 
== Best weapon to fight dragons (tested by: Mimi-limonite) ==
 
3 dwarves with full iron armor + shields and decent skills are set against 1 default dragon. 4 variations are tested: swords, spears, warhammers and axes.
 
 
<u>'''Times run:'''</u> 200, each, 800 total
 
 
<u>'''Initial setup:'''</u> 3 dwarves with skill level 9(professional) in fighter, dodger, armor user, shield user, observer and discipline, skill level 6(talented) in biting, kicking, striking and wrestling, and skill level 9 in the skill for their weapon(axedwarf, speardwarf, etc.) are tested. They are given an iron breastplate, iron greaves, high boots, and gauntlets, iron shields and helms, as well as an iron warhammer/battle axe/short sword/spear. The dragon had a level 6 skill in observer, biter, archer, fighter, striker and dodger, which are the default ones for a dragon spawned in the arena.
 
They are put in a 4x4 room with the dragon in one corner and the dwarves in the opposite one. This is done in 40 rooms, and repeated 5 times for each weapon.
 
  
 
<u>'''Results:'''</u>
 
<u>'''Results:'''</u>
 
 
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! Side & Creature !! Wins(*note) !! Percentage Win !! Survivors total
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! Side & Creature !! Victories
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| #1: Dragon || 56 || 28% || 56/200
 
|-
 
| #2: 3 Warhammer dwarves || 144 || 72% || 310/600
 
|}
 
 
 
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|-
 
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! Side & Creature !! Wins(*note) !! Percentage Win !! Survivors total
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| #1: Heavily Armored Dwarf Recruits || 43
 
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|-
| #1: Dragon || 24 || 12% || 24/200
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| #2: Medium Armored Dwarf Recruits || 57
 
|-
 
|-
| #2: 3 Battle axe dwarves || 176 || 88% || 474/600
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| No Survivors || 0
 
|}
 
|}
 
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
 
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! Side & Creature !! Wins(*note) !! Percentage Win !! Survivors total
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! Side & Creature !! Victories
 
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|-
| #1: Dragon || 18 || 9% || 18/200
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| #1: Heavily Armored Adept Swordsdwarves || 43
 
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| #2: 3 Sword dwarves || 182 || 91% || 514/600
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| #2: Medium Armored Adept Swordsdwarves || 53
|}
 
 
 
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! Side & Creature !! Wins(*note) !! Percentage Win !! Survivors total
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| No Survivors || 4
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| #1: Dragon || 7 || 3.5% || 7/200
 
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| #2: 3 Spear dwarves || 193 || 96.5% || 511/600
 
 
|}
 
|}
 
<u>'''Comparison of differently armed dwarves:'''</u>
 
 
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! Weapon !! Wins + ties !! Percentage win or tie !! Survivors(out of 600)
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! Side & Creature !! Victories
 
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| #1: Spear dwarves || 193 || 96.5% || 511
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| #1: Heavily Armored Grand Master Swordsdwarves || 56
 
|-
 
|-
| #2: Sword dwarves || 182 || 91% || 514
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| #2: Medium Armored Grand Master Swordsdwarves || 42
 
|-
 
|-
| #3: Battle axe dwarves || 176 || 88% || 474
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| No Survivors || 2
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| #4: Warhammer dwarves || 144 || 72% || 310
 
 
|}
 
|}
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<u>'''Methodology:'''</u>
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Steel Short swords were chosen for their variety of attacks with different armor penetration properties. Tests were done at different skill levels to vary the momentum of successful strikes (1.0x at unskilled, 1.5x at adept, 2.0x at grand master.)
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For the recruit test 5 15x15 dwarf combats were generated in a classic arena map and then the map was reloaded 20 times. For the other tests 25 5x5 dwarf combats were generated in  forest arena map inside 7x7 rooms made of tree trunks and the map was reloaded 4 times.
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<u>'''Notes:'''</u>
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Earlier testing indicate unskilled peasants wearing heavy armor may fight at 60% the speed of a naked dwarf (see [[Armor#Encumbrance| encumbrance]] and linked forum posts)
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The 95% confidence intervals for these results are about +-10 dwarves.
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Weapon skill likely affects parrying chance as well as momentum, so varying skill level ultimately influenced combat length in an unknown way. This caused fatigue to potentially be a confounding variable.
  
 
<u>'''Tester's conclusion:'''</u>
 
<u>'''Tester's conclusion:'''</u>
Hammerdwarves are the worst by far, and axedwarves after them. Speardwarves and swordsdwarves have very similar survival rates but speardwarves lost significantly less, suggesting that when swordsdwarves win, it's less likely some of them died while doing so, while speardwarves are more reliable.
 
  
<u>'''Notes:'''</u>
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In no sample set of 100 combats was a statistically significant difference from equality of the groups observed. Furthermore at low and medium weapon skill levels the medium-armored dwarves performed somewhat better. These results are consistent with the advice that for military dwarves with low armor skill, the encumbrance of wearing multiple pieces of 15+ weight armor makes the extra protection not worth it.
(*) due to ease of counting, dwarf wins and draws are counted together, as it was much easier to count the number of remaining dragons(equivalent to dragon wins), ie number of surviving team 1 members, than check every room individually.
 

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